Re: 1755
Steve,
I am sorry that you had a problem. In the future, if I mention any websites that offer souvenirs for sale, I will definitely indicate a disclaimer. Caveat Emptor …
Your trial run with this firm will help the rest of us who might be considering a purchase from that site.
Best,
Phil
ref 1758
A Memorial Day tribute to all of those who gave all in the defense of our country. A special tribute to the helicopter pilots and crew assigned to the 525 MI BN
in Bien Hoa (1970-1971). They were a great group of guys.
May they Rest in Peace.
Comment by Jerry McCarty — May 30, 2016 @ 8:11 am
I was with 525 III Corps Bien Hoa ’69-70′ and knew some of the crew but was not aware of that disaster…do you have any other info/details? Jerry Smith
Re #1762
The Helicopter assigned to the 525th (3rd BN Bien Hoa) went down on April 8, 1971. Go to “thewall-usa.com” and search
that date for the info. I remember that the movie had just started outside the “club” and Colonel Wentzyl sent someone out
to make the announcement.
I just read an article in the Dundalk Eagle, that on June 17, 1972, forty-four years ago today, D.C, Police arrested 5 burglars in the HQ of the DNC un the Watergate Hotel complex in Washington, D.C. Later, in 1973, Donald H. Segretti, Charles Colson, Jeb Stuart Magruder, E. Howard Hunt, Herbert W. Kalmbach, and Egil M. Krogh were detained at Fort Holabird awaiting charges concerning the break-in. The building where they were housed no longer exists but this just shows how Ft. Holabird played a significant role in our nation’s history.
Happy Father’s Day , and most likely in our cases Happy Father’s Day to all the grandfathers (great grandfathers) out there who proudly served their country . Stay healthy my fellow Fort Holabird veterans.
Had lost this site but found it again tonight .
John,
Welcome back!
Gordon Cooper, post #1744:
I just scoped out-
Joe Bynam
55 Rosemount Cir
Phenix City, AL 36869
(334) 297-5946 –
See more at: http://www.zabasearch.com
Shows at 68 yrs. old.
Anyone,
Does anyone remember a Michael Uhl? CIC Vietnam. eleventh Infantry, Americal Division, intelligence team.
Fort Holabird trained a possibility. Just came across his name in a recently published book WITNESS TO THE REVOLUTION by Clara Bingham (2016).
Manny Adler
J.D Salinger of CATCHER IN THE RYE fame wrote a book about his WWII CIC experiences titled “Diary of a CIC agent. Does anyone know if it has been published. Saw his bio on “American Masters” on PBS. Fascinating. Love to get reactions to his marriage against military regulations to a Nazi (and subsequent annulment). So many untold stories!
Manny
Great place to grow up in The Lithuanian Catholic Community Center on Davis Avenue ,West Hudson Park and Our Lady of Sorrows Church.
Re #1769, Manny, he has a wikipedia page and it says he did receive training at the “elite Fort Holabird”.
Manny,
According to a site called “Goodreads.com” in Aug 2014, he had 5 unpublished books on the subject of CIC agents. He also had a romance novel that wasn’t published. He probably had more than that.
When I were a lad growing up in the UK (50’s) we watched many b/w cowboy shows eg lone ranger, cisco kid, gunsmoke etc; I vaguely recall someone had a horse called “Sapphire”. Am I correct or not ? Thanx.
btw, we did not get the amos and andy show.
Bill,
Thanks. Ran across a biography SALINGER by Shields & Salerno with a great deal of info on Salinger’s CIC experiences. Found a couple of errors (re Holabird and confusion of what he exactly did). Other than his Army time I found the book somewhat of a bore, but thaan I’m not an English lit major or can’t you tell?).
Manny
John Nolan,
Welcome to the site! Please provide us with your email address. I have contact information from all of those who have ever visited this site and left their addresses. Please contact me if you need more information or have any questions.
Best,
Phil Ostrander
I am curious as to how other MI units handled personnel issues for agents. I was a single enlisted agent with the 526th MI in Okinawa from October 67 to July 69. By personnel issues, I mean things like ID cards and quarters. I recall that the unit took my military ID card and issued me a DAC card. I think the rank was GS-7. I was also supposed to be billeted in a 4-bedroom BOQ at the Naha Wheel area, but stayed at the Naha Field Office instead. The married enlisted agents had quarters in the Machinato Housing area. They were in the enlisted area, but the names listed on the homes showed “Mr” instead of a military rank. The warrant officers were in the officer’s section and they too had “Mr” on their quarters name plates. The unit was so compartmentalized that I have no idea where the enlisted agents who worked out of the headquarters were billeted. I do recall that single non-agent personnel were billeted in quonset huts outside the unit compound close to the Club Cobean which served as the unit headquarters mess area. The club must have been like an open mess because anyone could go there and dine or drink at the bar. Wonder how it was in other overseas areas. Never worked stateside so don’t know how it was there either. Funny, my father was an warrant officer agent and I never thought to ask him how his ID documentation was.
Wayne, Ref. # 1784.
In 1956-7, I was stationed at HQ, Seoul. Military dependents were not allowed, so housing was
easier. All were housed in our compound. The enlisted men were in quonset huts, as were some work areas. Other activities and the officers were housed in older buildings with the exception of the O Club which was newer [probably built by the Army] with a bar, dance floor, and theater. No food was served. All CIC personnel could frequent. The only other GIs in the compound were several sergeants in the mess hall and a few privates in the motor pool. They did not use the club.
We had many indigenous personnel, doing almost all support functions, including perimeter guards and in the mess hall which helps explain the “wave of GIs” every month. All indigenous personnel were men except for the B gals in the O Club.
Initially, we wore USA insignia on our uniforms and later the DAC patch. Our DAC ID had no rank, so by knowing the appropriate ranks, you could have the best hamburger at an NCO club and a drink at an O club. I was allowed to keep my DAC ID card. Starting in 1958, I was told that the S/As wore civilian clothes.
Bernie
Reference #1785.
One correction. Our cleaning personnel were house boys and mama-sans [obviously females plus the B gals].
During our twice {?} a month Sat. morning inspections, the cleaning personnel would clean the area while we ate breakfast. The tap water was not potable, so we used fancy whiskey bottles with all labeling removed. We got the water from a “tanker” in the compound. During one Sat. inspection,
the captain doing the inspections discovered a beer bottle that the mama-san had missed. He handed the beer bottle to the S/A and said that all water bottles had to have the labeling removed.
The yearly IG visit was detrimental to our operation, rather than helpful. After the visit when I was there, we
were gigged for not doing morning calisthenics and not having frequent propaganda. A number of us, including officers, were out at 7 AM for less than a week. Apparently the officers decided it wasn’t worth it – that ended it. We weren’t so lucky with the propaganda. Every {?} week we had to endure an hour presentation and to add insult to injury:
a.] one of us had to give the presentation – given the topic.
b.] we attended from 4-5 PM. In the summer we played volleyball from 4-5 and during the monsoon
and winter we got ready for the bar to open at 5 PM.
