Got to Holabird in 68 right out of basic at Ft. Jackson. Went thru 96d course and wound up in 1969 in Nam with the 1st aviation brigade, 73rd surveillance airplane company in beautiful Vung Tau for a few months and then with them for the move to Long Than North. We read out imagery from Mohawks.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Barry rostholder
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Gordon Cooper
Ref#1081. Barry, did you work with Special Agent Eugene Reed. He did Mohawks work at that time and came back to CONUS in 1969. Retired.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Danny Butler
I was at the bird in late ’70 and early ’71. Graduated from 97D coordinator class, then went to staff and faculty with ACD Advanced Course Department. Was on the advance party team with the relocation of Holabird to Ft. Huachuca. Went to 97B course there. Then name was changed from USAINTS to USAINTC/S which only added the term Center/School. Worked with the ACD again, sent to Vietnam, assigned to 525th MI Group, 575th MI Detachment, MACV-SID. I have a few pictures of the old Holabird, including a formation in front of barracks with raising of the flag, about mid 1960′s.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Danny Butler
Ref.#1042 Beverly McCormick, I was there during that time. Do you remember a Dyann Thiel or a Sgt. Medina? I was with the Advanced Course Department, and worked with Medina.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by frank stella
re post 1076-col Dalton was dept of area studies(das) dept director while I was assigned to that dept at the school at holabird. I was there 64 til I ets july 67. I thought he was there the entire time I was there but I may be wrong. he was terrific, we all played volleyball at lunch together. his dep director was ltc tom hessler and maybe he took over partway thru my time, I forget, but they were both fine men.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Louis Edward Francois Jr.
What a great website. Read about half the posts and found most grads from the Bird are ’60′s and ’70′s. Aren’t many ’50′s left these days. I’m 85, so many of my class mates from Group B168,3Mar52, to 3Jul52 are probably deceased. Still have my diploma framed and on the wall in my den. Rummaged around the shelves in the garage and found all my old school manuals, notes, graduation notice and assignments. Most important, the complete list of all my classmates names and addresses at the time. 42 of us graduated PMOS 1301(Counter Intelligence Agent) 10 were RA’s the rest draftees.
Would like to communicate with B168 guys if you are out there and have seen this site.Thank all of you for your service ladies and gentelmen. Louis Edward Francois Jr.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by charles goffredo
re post 1085 Frank thank you for responding to my post about Col Dalton. I was curious to find out more info on this gentleman so I googled his name. There is a wealth on info on him, including his induction into the Intell Hall of Fame. On a sad note he passed away on 11/4/2003. His obit contains most of his assignments thru out his career, including mention of his commanding the 502nd in Korea while I was there. His service included wwll at Normandy. May he rest in peace. Thanks again frank for responding, I appreciate it when I can make contact with my fellow Holabird alumni.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by manny adler
louis (#1086):
A few of us are “hanging on”. A hHappy New Year to all our “postees” of the Jewish faith and thank you for pulling so many KP’s over Christmas.
Manny
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Comment on I’ll Never Forget. by Jean
I’ll never forget as many people won’t forget. Unfortunately,many student in middle school and younger will remember a little bit or none of it because of their age. They will only read about it in books.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Gene Chamberlain
Drafted Jan 25, 1951 age 23, Infantry basic Ft Riley, Feb-May. Ft Holabird May – Oct 51, Agent Training then safecracker school. Went to 111th CIC with assignment to the Atlanta Field office. there were 4 old timers there. I was married before I was drafted. A married agent was needed there to replace some guys who were retiring. I was in the Atlanta office from Oct 51 till separation in Jan 53, traveled North Georgia mostly. New agents rotated through the office for training prior to further assignment. There were only 6 regulars in the office. I have lost contact with the guys there. The ones my age (86) have passed on. About a week before separation 2 of us were called into the Old Man’s office. We were offered direct commissions as 1st Lts if we would sign on for 5 more years of active duty. Shepard a 6 year man accepted. My wife said no Honey, lets go back to the farm in Nebraska. A couple of us were offered positions with the FBI in their new counter intelligence division. I lived off base at Holabird on Brentwood Ave. I lived on Avon Ave in Atlanta.
We were told that there were only 2,000 Agents in the army that were doing civilian assignments. I never did get back my dog tags or uniforms.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Phil Ostrander
Hello Fellow Birdman and Birdwomen,
I was at the Bird in 68′ for Agent Course in ’68 and for the Photo Intell Course in ’70 before shipping out to the 502nd MI Bn in the ROK. I was the only true Baltimorean in my classes and remember alerting all of the guys to the great clubs in B’more.
Comment by Phil Ostrander – September 14, 2013
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by gdmbrd
Welcome Phil (1090)!
I was at the Bird in ’68 too – Interrogators Course.
I went downtown a lot back then. Remember Judges and Hollywood Park – great clubs. I think it was Judges that had a slide in it?
Gary
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Phil Ostrander
Hi Gary,
Thanks for your comments. Yes, Judges on Greenmount Ave. did have the slide. I remember going there before I was 21. My favorite spot was the Rhapsody Club on B & A Blvd. Great sounds and a great place to meet women. Individuals that I knew from the Maryland area that have connections to the Bird include: Smith, Prouser, Bianchi, Thompson, O’Connell, Kohler, Simms, and “Ditt”. Flash Gordon, Catonsville AFRS, was my Army Recruiter. Unfortunately, we lost him during the war. Today, Ft. Holabird is less than a shadow of its former self. The only building left is the Officers Open Mess. It is now occupied as a private club by the VVA Chapter 451. Their address is 6401 Beckley St., Balto, MD 21224. They have a site on the web. If you want a tour of what is left, go on Google Maps and key in their address. I read recently, where the manager of the establishment indicated that about 2 former Birdmen stop by each week to inquire concerning the whereabouts of the rest of our beloved fort. Clearly, we need some stronger connection to our past, as most of us are now in our sixties and even older. Maybe, a creation like this could be known as the “Fort Holabird Alumni Association” or the “Friends of Fort Holabird”. If you have any ideas, I am also on LinkedIn.
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Ken Robinson
re post 1090
Hi Phil,
What was your Agent Class number?
Ken Robinson
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Phil Ostrander
Hi Ken,
I haven’t a clue.
Best,
Phil Ostrander
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Phil Ostrander
Hi Ken,
I did further research and found my Graduation Exercise pamphlet. My Agent Class was 69-B-16.
Best,
Phil Ostrander
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Ken Robinson
Phil,
Your name rang a bell for some reason. I thought we might have been at the Bird in the same time frame, but my class was 68-B-20. We graduated in Oct. 1968.
Ken
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by ben burt
DID ANY OF YOU HAVE DUTY WITH A CO-ORDINATOR NAMED ,ROBERT DURBIN? HE WAS IN MY BASIC TRAINING COMPANY AT FORT POLK AND AT HOLABIRD WHEN I WAS TAKING AGENT TRAINING JULY 1963 THRU NOV.63. ROBERT WAS FROM ANNISTON,ALABAMA BUT HAD RELATIVES IN BALTIMORE AREA. WE WOULD RIDE MY YAMAHA MOTORCYCLE OUT TO VISIT THEM ON WEEK-ENDS. LOST CONTACT WITH HIM AFTER BIRD AND I WAS SENT TO OKINAWA;526TH INTC DET. BEN BURT
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by Ken Robinson
Phil,
Loved Holabird. I don’t know why the Regular Army let it exist. It was the opposite of every way they operated. The only thing I can think of is that the rest of the Army didn’t know the place existed.
I didn’t spend any real off duty in Baltimore. I saved my meager PFC’s pay and went home to Pittsburgh every week end. I know more about Baltimore from watching “Homicide” on TV than from the months I spent at Holabird.
Ken
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Comment on Fort Holabird or the Twilight Zone? by manny adler
Ken,
Ditto for many of us “permanent party” ersatz soldiers.
Manny
p.s. If we had an alumni association we could real reunions like the real soldiers, Could we be called “The Birdbrains?”
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